Agents Provocateurs

For many years, I have warned young brothers to stay away from these political demonstrations. This is a great example of my motivation.

For 12 hours, the pubic was indulging in peaceful candlelight vigils to honor the memory of George Floyd. Suddenly, some anonymous dumbass appears to brazenly commit arson. The cameraman turned the lens on him after he threw a molotov cocktail, and he proceeds to bash out all of the windows, so that his fire will have plenty of air to run the building through.

When I watched the video above, the overwhelming feeling I got was that whoever this cocksmoker was, he acted like a cop. Note his reaction when the serious young protestor asks him why he just committed a felony. It was instant bully mode, as he turns around and assaults that brother.

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The St. Paul police department denies it’s him, but his own wife is on record fingering him as the man who burned down Minneapolis.

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What does this mean for the people who were at the protest? It means that all of them are now eligible for felony charges.

The young brothers who went downtown, simply to ask for a redress of grievances, are going to be rounded up shortly, and many of them will be given prison sentences. They’ll lose their right to vote, their right to own a firearm, and their options for employment and scholarships.

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Every single person who has protested is now on a list. They have photos of all the faces and license plate numbers of everyone who attended, which means that even if you are not arrested shortly, you will be watched. For the rest of your life, whenever the feminist state wants to compel you to be their servant, they will show up and threaten you with a long prison sentence for violent terrorism.

Because I know my critics will spin this in all the most ridiculous possible ways, I’ll just end by reminding them that I’m not on the pigs’ side in this conflict. If it weren’t for these murderous pigs, we wouldn’t be faced with:

  • crippling alimony judgments
  • ridiculous child custody laws (legalized kidnapping)
  • debtor’s prison for poor men who can’t afford child support

Special note for all you white nationalist guys, if it weren’t for the cops, you wouldn’t be forced to live next to non-whites. You also could also deport race-mixers like me. Why you guys so often cuck for these pigs is a real mystery.

As though they wanted to drive the point home, our masters announced yesterday that murdering a handcuffed man is not a criminal act (provided one of their asslicking suckups does it.)

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I almost have to admire the hubris here. Why didn’t they go all out and pin medals on the murderers?

One thing I know is that the cops are not my friend. I’m not going to talk to them, or become noticeable to them, or give them an excuse to put me on their list. You shouldn’t either.

It’s going to be a hot summer. Remember your general orders. Resist the urge to indulge in organized crime or radical politics, as these will limit your options in the future. If you’re angry, find some way to channel your emotions productively.

Don’t be needlessly drawn into an unwinnable fight. This is what it means to be a man.

Author: Boxer

Sinister All-Male Dancer. Secret King of all Gamma Males. Member of Frankfurt School. Your Fave Contrarian!

29 thoughts on “Agents Provocateurs”

  1. One report states that the perp and the victim were security co-workers at the same nightclub, as early as a few months ago. Now this, from the WP:

    “The Hennepin County Medical Examiner announced it has made “no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation.” The preliminary results of the May 26 autopsy were included in the statement of probable cause for charges against Chauvin. The medical examiner suggested underlying health conditions contributed to Floyd’s death. Floyd’s family said it will seek an independent autopsy.”

    This has echoes of Ferguson. Remember when the prosecutor stated that there wasn’t enough evidence to indict? Did any of you guys read the official coroner’s report? I read that report multiple times. Following the description and location of entry and exit wounds, it surely seemed like he was either shot in the back while running away, or shot while his hands were raised in the “don’t shoot” pose. Now, I’m notably not a medical expert, but nothing about that situation smelled right. The more I learn about Minneapolis, the less I like this one too.

  2. When I watched the video above, the overwhelming feeling I got was that whoever this cocksmoker was, he acted like a cop.

    If he wasn’t, then he was a patsy who had been blackmailed or threatened by “Minneapolis’s Finest” into cooperating with their false flag provocateur scheme. That’s how the Feebs have routinely done business since 9-11, and there’s no reason to assume that state and local pig pens don’t do the same thing. Either way, it’s the same thing as the cops committing the crime.

    Why you [white nationalists] so often cuck for these pigs is a real mystery.

    Indeed. Most whitenats at least pay lip service to the idea of Liberty, so for them to be pro-“Fat Blue Line Gang” makes no sense. They’re equally idiotic if they think that having white skin automatically puts swine on their side in any dispute with non-whites. They seem to ignore the fact that swine are employees of the State, and the State, by its very nature, HATES white men who don’t grovel obsequiously at its feet. Obviously these people aren’t as smart as they like to think they are.

  3. As silly as the TV show “Cops” was……..for over 25 years we were given accounts. video….and dramatic narration. Even on that show I learned:

    -the police always have you out gunned
    -the police, even if wrong or you ‘have your day in court’ you are still going to a place for at MOST 72hrs of hell. The local downtown jail.
    -the police never apologize. Never.
    -you might have the fastest car in Washinek County, but you are not outrunning a radio
    -in California, all police now are militarized. Mini-tanks. Armored cars, and personnel carries. Dogs. truncheons. BLACK uniforms. shielding. I am old enough to remember cops when they had a uniform and a sidearm and were help first, cuff after
    -their Unions are divided along racial lines, and all of them talk about the dangerous work they do….yet have no problems inflicting that danger on you.
    -cops will take what you say and then use what you said against you, frequently seen on the “Cops” TV show

    Cops are not to be trusted. Cops don’t like anyone except “other cops” and they don’t like ever being told “no” and this putz above…if it is indeed a cop “instigating” this. He should be removed from duty. Fired. and NO PENSION, and no, he cannot reapply in a few years. That line of work is over.

    You know trumps America would back this guy up if he did this, and probably demand he be made chief “you don’t understand the hard work and pressure cops are under”

    I don’t like cops. I learned a hard way, it is only “yes officer” and “no officer”

    the career was ruined not be femiinism but by men and countless like him above.

  4. Your analysis is wrong Derek.

    It’s consistent with him falling forward hands out stretched toward the officer.

    I hate Federal and Local Agents .. They will be the first targets of aggression when we go hot.

    But, having been involved in armed combat .. where we shot at others & they us .. with the intent to kill. That cop probably was involved in a good shoot.

    Your not an expert on combat kinesiology .. so I can see why you’d draw that conclusion.

    Here is what a bad shoot looks like .. with an acquital .. THIS WAS MURDER ..

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/12/08/graphic-video-shows-daniel-shaver-sobbing-and-begging-officer-for-his-life-before-2016-shooting/

    They set him up .. gave him contro-dick-ery commands .. and shot him for trying not to let his baggy shorts come off ..

    These guys kill as many or more white guys than black .. they know they can get away with it .. thank our highest judges for those decisions.

  5. Local and Federal Agents are the enemy of ALL men!

    Act accordingly.

  6. “It’s consistent with him falling forward hands out stretched toward the officer.”

    I may very well be wrong (have not double-checked), but if I recall correctly, the bullet entered the inside rear of the upper arm and exited from the inside front of the upper arm, without touching bone. If you are qualified to weigh in on the subject, I’d be happy to look up the exact details.

    “Your not an expert on combat kinesiology”

    Yes, that is completely true. And I’ve also seen no such expert explain how a bullet can enter the rear of an arm and exit the front of the arm while falling forward with hands out-stretched toward the officer. I have no doubt that he did in fact fall forward, as some bullets entered from the top of the head.

  7. I hold no official expert status other than seeing wounds up close and how a body reacts to being shot.

    And the Fureguson event is all speculation (because all we have is the officer report and the aww-top-sea report) without a body cam.

    I love camera’s and the police hate them .. unfortunately even with video evidence these scumbags walk .. (e.g. the shooting I linked).

    I know your anti-violence Derek .. but contrary to what you’ve been told .. VIOLENCE DOES SOLVE PROBLEMS .. take 5 (locals / agents) with you when they come knocking!

  8. Boxer I’ve been reading your blog since I discovered it on Dalrock. I check it regularly for new posts some of them I agree with and some of them I disagree with and before I explain my disagreement with you on this one about cops I’d like you to know I am white, I am married to a black woman and I like you left Christianity years ago. I have been police officer in a large city for nearly two decades and I don’t believe that someone would be stupid enough to pose as a rioter just to lock some people up for felonies it’s just a hell of a stretch. In my two decades of policing I have always striven to be fair and to treat people the way I wished to be treated. About 99 percent of all big city local police officers are regular guys just working and trying to provide for their families. I have never met a police officer who wanted to kill someone. The “Thin Blue Line of silence” ended years ago. The out of control or rogue Officers usually don’t last that long. The police of today are millennials and are genuinely scared to put their hands on people. Internal affairs at my Department will hammer you if you are not following state law. I have never shot anyone, or tased anyone, or hit anyone with a baton. I have always tried to talk to people to get them to comply. I have been a supervisor for nearly half my time on the job and If the Officer needed discipline I did that. I have had to relive Officers from duty and start the disciplinary process myself . I have always tried to impress professionalism and courtesy on all the officers who have worked for me. Please don’t paint all police officers with a broad brush this saddens me. We are not all bad. You guys can flog me all you want after this, but I just wanted to put this out there.

  9. “I know your anti-violence Derek .. but contrary to what you’ve been told .. VIOLENCE DOES SOLVE PROBLEMS”

    You misunderstand. With the exception of game hunting, Jesus’ return, and perhaps self-defense, no Christian is given the right to use violence to solve problems, but that doesn’t mean violence can’t solve problems. For example, if the secular governing authorities decide on the death penalty for murder or molestation, both would be compatible with biblical standards of judgment and would solve problems. On the other hand, if those same governing authorities authorized abortion, that would not reflect biblical standards, nor solve problems. Indeed, the death penalty for abortion would be compatible with biblical standards and would solve many problems.

    The job of the Christian is to guide the secular government so that when it does use violence—as it must—it does so in a manner that is biblical. Similarly, the Christian may speak out when violence is not compatible with biblical standards. Executing a fellow man in cold blood is one of those times. Until there is an adequate explanation for “… how a bullet can enter the rear of an arm and exit the front of the arm while falling forward with hands out-stretched toward the officer”, it is fair to continue questioning the official narrative and considering alternative explanations. Even if this is never explained, I’m content knowing that the Father in heaven will judge all men’s deeds justly and mercifully.

  10. You misunderstand.

    You’re a “conscientious objector” Derek.

    So, no I don’t “misunderstand” [sic] your view on violence.

    When does self-defense begin? When you feel the first bullet or when the thugs (locals and federal agents) act as rulers over any american life?

    The problem you have is you still think the government is capable of performing the role of your ex-eye-cue-shin-er .. and that ab-solves you of wrong doing .. does it matter then when the very government that gives you everything turns the table and takes everything from you? It was fine when they killed other deserving individuals .. wasn’t it?

    You believe in sanctioned murder (by government) as long as you don’t get your hands dirty.

    At some point when will the previous executions of inn-oh-scent life tip you off that you’re next?

    And when will you take personal responsibility to do something about it?

    You lose if you play the defensive role.

    You have got to know when to put down the family pet .. and that means pre-emptive self-defense.

    So, yes Derek .. VIOLENCE DOES solve problems.

  11. @honeycomb

    “VIOLENCE DOES solve problems.”

    As I’ve said, a government’s primary source of power is violence. Since governments are legitimately authorized by God, this implies that the government can solve problems using violence. That’s not a high standard, sure, but a standard nonetheless.

    “When does self-defense begin?”

    Excellent question. Since my views on self-defense tend to align with the Amish, you’ll have to ask my brothers who argue in favor of self-defense. I find it very difficult for a Christian to argue in favor of self-defense, but acknowledge that it can be a rational stance.

    “The problem you have is you still think the government is capable of performing the role of your ex-eye-cue-shin-er .. and that ab-solves you of wrong doing”

    The government is, quite explicitly stated, God’s executioner, not mine. See Romans 13.

    “You believe in sanctioned murder (by government) as long as you don’t get your hands dirty.”

    You see a difficulty where there is none. I practically beg my fellow Christian brothers to take no part in the government so that they can keep their hands clean. I also oppose the death penalty in favor of potentially lifelong sentencing to maximize the chance of repentance and redemption, not that the government is asking my opinion. That said, if God’s executioner decides that the death penalty is warranted, I have no call to stand in its way: it is a biblical stance, but one in which I am commanded to take no part.

    Those who take a life, even if justifiably commanded to do so, are still damaged by it. I understand this to be a Kantian understanding of morality as well. See here.

    “At some point when will the previous executions of inn-oh-scent life tip you off that you’re next? And when will you take personal responsibility to do something about it?”

    My life is not my own, it was bought with a price. If my master calls me home, I will go willingly. If they come for me, like they did for my ancestors, I hope my witness leads to their salvation.

    “You lose if you play the defensive role.”

    No, sir, I’ve already won.

  12. Dear Shug:

    Welcome Brother. Please see inside text…

    Boxer I’ve been reading your blog since I discovered it on Dalrock. I check it regularly for new posts some of them I agree with and some of them I disagree with and before I explain my disagreement with you on this one about cops I’d like you to know I am white, I am married to a black woman and I like you left Christianity years ago.

    I welcome criticism on my blog, and I’m glad you decided to disagree with me. Minor point, but I was never a Christian. My parents are Mormons, but I’ve been secular for as long as I can remember. While I do respect a lot of the Christian guys I know, and while I enjoy studying religion (including Christianity), I’m not a good candidate for membership and have no plans to convert.

    I have been police officer in a large city for nearly two decades and I don’t believe that someone would be stupid enough to pose as a rioter just to lock some people up for felonies it’s just a hell of a stretch.

    For the record, I don’t know if that vandal is the cop in question. I was questioning, not accusing. I do find it interesting that the cop’s ex-wife thought it was him. As for not believing that a cop would do such a thing… A lot of people don’t know this bit of history, so I’m glad you asked for a source.

    https://vault.fbi.gov/cointel-pro

    This started under Hoover in the mid-20th century, and it has never stopped.

    Not some, but many of the “terrorism” convictions these days are the cops, talking some clueless dumbass into doing something stupid, and then swooping in, guns drawn, with the corporate media in tow, to make a high-profile arrest.

    Here is a recent example:

    Online, he was known as HeilHitler8814, the so-called “commander” of a neo-Nazi group with plans to bomb CNN and attack a U.S. synagogue in hopes of starting a race war…. In real life, he was a 13-year-old keyboard warrior flirting with racism and terrorism from his parents’ home in Estonia, according to officials and reports from the tiny eastern European country.

    https://globalnews.ca/news/6831754/neo-nazi-commander-13/

    The cops talked this little kid into something actionable, then they went and got a warrant, only to realize that not only was he a little kid, he was also outside their jurisdiction.

    Cops do this all the time. It is standard practice, and every man should beware of anyone suddenly appearing to encourage him to do something stupid.

    In my two decades of policing I have always striven to be fair and to treat people the way I wished to be treated. About 99 percent of all big city local police officers are regular guys just working and trying to provide for their families. I have never met a police officer who wanted to kill someone. The “Thin Blue Line of silence” ended years ago.

    I don’t know that I buy 99%, but I have no doubt that the majority of police officers are decent guys who just want to do their work and go home.

    I also have no doubt that the majority of females, even in our degenerate society, aren’t skank-ho wimminz who are out to use a young man for all they can get out of him, before discarding him to repeat anew.

    The problem, in both cases, is that I have found no way to discern between the decent examples, and the evil actors. Since females can rip men off with impunity, and police officers can murder men in broad daylight with zero consequences, my advice to all men is thus to err on the side of caution, and not unnecessarily entangle oneself with members of either class.

    The out of control or rogue Officers usually don’t last that long. The police of today are millennials and are genuinely scared to put their hands on people. Internal affairs at my Department will hammer you if you are not following state law. I have never shot anyone, or tased anyone, or hit anyone with a baton. I have always tried to talk to people to get them to comply. I have been a supervisor for nearly half my time on the job and If the Officer needed discipline I did that. I have had to relive Officers from duty and start the disciplinary process myself . I have always tried to impress professionalism and courtesy on all the officers who have worked for me. Please don’t paint all police officers with a broad brush this saddens me. We are not all bad. You guys can flog me all you want after this, but I just wanted to put this out there.

    I’m not going to flog you, man. It’s the same in my profession.

    If someone tells me that all university professors are faggots, I can hold up any number of counterexamples to disprove the proposition; but, at the same time, I know where the speaker is coming from, and I identify with his sentiments. (I have to work with the bad ones, same as you.)

    Peace,

    Boxer

  13. Which Alphabet PSYOP Group do you belong too?

    Asking for a friend.

  14. On-topic, here is someone professionally qualified to weigh in: link. Well worth a read. For those who want the summary, here goes:

    ” the complaint filed by the Hennepin County Attorney made almost no effort to assert that the elements of the charge were met, that Chauvin was “perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life.” [..] This allegation is striking as it studiously avoids making a connection between Chauvin’s neck restraint and Floyd’s death, not only failing to establish the cause of death but affirmatively introducing other factors which would undermine culpability.”

    Just like in numerous other cases of a cop murdering a civilian, this cop is going to get the pass. They don’t even try to hide how rigged the game is. Anyone who thinks otherwise is extremely naive.

    “I have no doubt that the majority of police officers are decent guys who just want to do their work and go home.”

    …and in doing so support the system that protects the minority. You can see time and again, in black and white, how the system protects the wrongdoers. It is analogous to male feminists enablers. Do I blame the judges, juries, prosecutors, media, churches etc. when women kicks their husbands out, murder their children, and then get a pass? Yes I do.

    Let’s try a thought experiment. What would happen to Shug’s career if he suddenly became outspokenly vocal about police brutality and the system’s refusal to prosecute? What would happen if he became an activist against qualified immunity, asset forfeiture, and “The Reasonably Scared Cop Rule”?

  15. Dear Fellas:

    Which Alphabet PSYOP Group do you belong too?

    It must needs be that there is an opposition in all things. If not, then righteousness is impossible.

    Shug is welcome to disagree with me here. I’d love it if he would address some of the issues, but either way, I don’t want him to feel like he’s getting dogpiled every time he comments.

    Boxer

  16. The problem you have is you still think the government is capable of performing the role of your ex-eye-cue-shin-er .. and that ab-solves you of wrong doing .. does it matter then when the very government that gives you everything turns the table and takes everything from you? It was fine when they killed other deserving individuals .. wasn’t it?

    You believe in sanctioned murder (by government) as long as you don’t get your hands dirty.

    This has been an ongoing philosophical disagreement in Derek’s ethnic community for centuries. I’ve written about the Hutterites in Alberta, because they lived near us and I knew them growing up. I know that a couple of Hutterite guys my age work for the police (one is an RCMP officer, and the other works for CBSA). Both carry weapons, and the border guard served overseas in the Canadian Forces. Neither is a bad anabaptist, but neither is allowed to live (at least full time) on their collective farm.

    These guys:
    https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/doukhobors
    live near Christina Lake, in BC. I used to go there for weekends as a teenager. They’re definitely pacifists, and they represent half of a big community of Russian pacifists. About 20% of them went back to Russia during the civil war, and served with distinction in the Red Army under Trotsky.

    Derek’s position seems like the standard one among religious pacifists, but if you talk to them, you’ll find a large minority who are open to having a state of their own. They’re nice people who get pushed around too much, and I’m on your side in the debate, but ultimately they aren’t my people, and they’ve got to live as they feel is right.

  17. Then maybe more than a drive-bye post .. espousing the virtues of a scumbag institution .. will give us the confidence to avoid such remarks ..

    In the mean-time I’ll talk to my friend about his direct / blunt nature .. heh.

  18. Let’s try a thought experiment. What would happen to Shug’s career if he suddenly became outspokenly vocal about police brutality and the system’s refusal to prosecute? What would happen if he became an activist against qualified immunity, asset forfeiture, and “The Reasonably Scared Cop Rule”?

    We already very well know the answer to that question.

    “Shug” would one day be “accidentally” killed by friendly fire, either after being deliberately given an incorrect code of some kind, or after one of his fellow gangsters in blue “gosh, oopsie! accidentally” shoots him after “mistaking him for a perp.”

    Shug might also one day find an IAB team breaking his door down and arresting him in the middle of the night in front of his terrified wife and kids after some “drugs from the evidence room” were “found in his locker down at the precinct.” He might also find that his annual performance evaluation labeling him “a disgrace to the uniform and the badge” after years of being rated an exemplary officer.

    There are all sorts of things that the Fat Blue Line Gang does to “rats” – just like any non-government-sanctioned criminal gang. Shug knows this, which is why he will NEVER speak out against or do anything to try to stop the “bad apples” he works with from committing the crimes they do. If he really were concerned about this he would resign from the force, knowing that being an honest cop who strives to be a peace officer rather than a law enforcement officer is impossible in this day and age. But he hasn’t, apparently. Thus we know that drawing a paycheck on the taxpayers’ dime is more important to him than protecting these same taxpayers from the criminal predators who wear the same uniform he does.

  19. h0neyc0mb:
    2020-05-30 at 05:17
    Which Alphabet PSYOP Group do you belong too?

    Me? FEMA. The organization with all those death camps waiting for dissidents to be shipped in is the agency that organizes my volunteer search & rescue stuff. You can’t hate Shug for being police without hating me for being FEMA. If California had imposed roadblocks for the quarantine then I would probably have been stationed at one, and I would have played along… because I would have been in a position to make a difference. Somebody would be manning that roadblock regardless and better a sympathizer than a Dindu drone.

    Ditto police work. I’d rather have Shug patrol my neighborhood than a True Believer socialist even if he does occasionally have to follow bad orders.

    Derek Ramsey:
    2020-05-30 at 08:03
    “Just like in numerous other cases of a cop murdering a civilian, this cop is going to get the pass. They don’t even try to hide how rigged the game is. Anyone who thinks otherwise is extremely naive.”

    Color me naive. Anybody who states “I can’t breathe” is able to breathe because he is able to talk. Dindus try that phrase all the time when they know there are cameras watching them get arrested. My BS detector would’ve pinged on Floyd for that reason alone, never mind how perfectly this fits the white-cop-bad-black-thug-good Narrative of 30+ years.

    I’m still waiting for the other shoe to drop on Officer Chauvin. These stories almost always turn out to be that the “victim” was nothing of the sort, from Jogger all the way back to Rodney King. Already I know that Chauvin and Floyd were co-bouncers at a bar outside of police work, or something to that effect, and Floyd had a criminal record.

  20. Shug is a troll / mole / bot .. etc .. we call’em drive-byes for a reason ..

    You’re an established (fema) poster .. he’s not .. until then .. he’s just a drive-bye troll.

  21. “I would have played along… because I would have been in a position to make a difference. Somebody would be manning that roadblock regardless and better a sympathizer than a Dindu drone.”

    I used to think this too. I regret my role in helping Wikipedia build its bureaucracy (see here). I naively though that it would be better if I influenced the outcome, but instead my role was net negative.

    Would you build a sandcastle to stop the floods when barricades of sandbags are required?

    It is possible to actively and visibly resist from within. Across the country there are reported instances of police who have crossed the line and joined the protestors (including some sheriffs and chiefs of police). These are rare exceptions, and I suspect that the only thing that will come of it will be harm to their careers. They don’t have the numbers to effect change (and they may just be doing it for show).

    “You can’t hate Shug for being police without hating me for being FEMA.”

    No, I don’t hate you, or I’d have to hate myself. At best, we are not part of the solution. At worst, we are part of the problem. I have no illusions that when I attend my church, I’m supporting the convergence of feminist and bureaucratic ‘churchianity.’ But I and my family get something out of it. I may (possibly!) not be the problem, but I’m definitely not the solution.

  22. @honeycomb

    Having given this some more thought, I’d like to weigh in again on violence and self-defense.

    “You lose if you play the defensive role. VIOLENCE DOES solve problems.”

    The early church dealt with persecution by forming tight-knit communities and utilizing home churches. Rather than engaging in violence, it turned the other cheek. And it grew and grew. It was so successful that a few centuries later, a politically dominate sect overtook the government that once threatened it, becoming the new oppressors in its place.

    During all of our lifetimes we’ve seen historically unprecedented economic prosperity and physical safety. This allowed us to leave our kin and communities and venture out as individuals. Everyone was empowered. We could be atomized and….thrive? Most have had neither persecution nor community. Recent rapid societal change has altered the balance.

    So is the solution to utilize violence, utilizing self-defense at the minimum? Or is the solution to reform tight-knit communities and home churches?

    If I lose, it will be because I left the sanctity of the Anabaptist community I grew up in, thus isolating myself and my family. I cannot automatically rely on my neighbors to band together and take care of each other, like the Amish can. It’s my fault for leaving. I assumed that society would hold together and that neighbors wouldn’t attack neighbors. Despite the reality of violence, my fault is leaving the community, not because I refuse to participate in violence or self-defense.

    Violence seems warranted precisely because we’ve atomized ourselves and destroyed the bonds of kin and community. The biblical standards do not allow violence as a replacement for building kin and community, even if those standards permit self-defense. By destroying the family and the bonds of kinship and community, we’ve put ourselves in a position where violence looks attractive. It isn’t. This recent violence is not restoring kinship and community, indeed, we see communities burning.

  23. “Across the country there are reported instances of police who have crossed the line and joined the protestors (including some sheriffs and chiefs of police).”

    Yes, the Santa Cruz sheriff in my area is one of them. It’s probably just for show; he’s an enclave Goodwhite who doesn’t risk much by showing solidarity with Dindu Muffins.

    “I have no illusions that when I attend my church, I’m supporting the convergence of feminist and bureaucratic ‘churchianity.’ But I and my family get something out of it. I may (possibly!) not be the problem, but I’m definitely not the solution.”

    Don’t sell yourself short. If the organization has utility for you then by all means, make use of it… and don’t assume that your participation isn’t changing the organization for the better despite its own intentions.

    Anyway, I have sympathy for police in Shug’s position. He himself might be trolling but I know a couple real-life cops that fit what he talks about. They don’t like what’s happening and being on the front line means they couldn’t be ignorant if they wanted to be.

  24. Derek ..

    Brother .. seriously .. Just because your grandparents did something doesn’t make it right .. or gospel.

    What did Jesus Christ say on the matter? What do we find in the Scriptures regarding violence?

    We can disagree till the cows come home brother .. while I’m stack’em like cord-wood .. if necessary!

    Follow your heart .. as will I .. and remember .. we are cleansed by Our Lord and Saviour .. of ALL sins [1].

    [1] Lets not go down a rabbit hole about the unforgiveable sin. Thanks.

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